Tuesday, September 30, 2014

New... Nevermind, Just More of the Same


Welcome to October! It's the start of the month so it's time for more new rangers. But where are the new places to use our new rangers? I don't think there's much purpose in having new rangers if there is no new content, right? On top of that, apparently overlapping limited edition rangers is a thing now. *Shrug*...

Junior Cony is the first attack class ranger sporting the Cony face. And yeah, she's totally great. Think Dumpy-like, but way farther range. That giant stick of chalk is no joke! As a limited edition ranger, she's not bad at all. And that hair. LOL. 

Maestro Boss (whose artwork I love, btw) is longer range than his predecessor, Dancer King Boss. He hits harder and he moves faster, too. If I'm not mistaken, he has longer range than Prince James. Both Maestro Boss and Junior Cony have pretty low HP but given that they stay so far back, it seems an ok amount of health.

The natural comparison to make with Somchai is of course his brother from another mother, Muay Thai Brown. For 1320 minerals, you'll get 5.6 million HP and a guy that hits for 156k. But for 640 minerals (less than half Somchai's cost) and a faster cooldown, you get 3.8 million HP and Muay Thai hits harder. I guess they're both comparable but for my money, I'd still want Muay Thai Brown over Somchai. 

The addition of Tiger as a 3 star ranger at this stage of the game seems kind of random, like they're just padding the Gacha roster a bit. But, well, for a 3 star speed ranger, Tiger really isn't bad. Tiger is closely related to Witch Cony in mineral, attack, health, speed and range. Is there a time to use Tiger if you already have most of the 5 star rangers? No, probably not. But if you don't have the entire roster available on your team to choose from, there may well be a chance that Tiger will be useful to you. Really, the most unfortunate thing about him is all the perfectly good ramen he is wasting on Dr. Mephisto's goons. 

With 4 Gacha tickets, I got General Brown and Kinnara Cony this time. Not super and no "new" rangers, but I am happy to get one Kinnara. I'm sure some people got good Gacha results and some did not. It's ok, guys. Don't get too worked up about it! Good luck and happy gaming!

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  1. Can i get tiger from friendship gacha? Elle or summer cony maybe? Tiger looks like sindy anyway

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    1. Can i get Elf cony from friendship gacha?

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  2. honestly i'm glad we got at least a new boss ranger. line should focus either on non-line characters or forgotten ones like moon

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  3. I got 6x5Stars Rangers in 6 Tries, so it was a pretty good deal ! Got Maestro, looks quite good, I didn't try the range yet. But dmn Somchai has huge health once again.

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  4. I've been in hospital, so I missed the gacha tickets. I got Sexy James and Dane, and it was a nice nostalgia rush, seeing as I used them on my team back when the game was new. It's also nice to finally be at the point where I really don't mind what I get - it's just gun to see, and there's some comic value in getting the really terrible rolls. :P

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  5. it is possible to change 5 gacha tickets for 5+1 gacha?

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    1. No, I don't think it is

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    2. Maybe, but you'd need 10, not 5

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    3. Confirmed, NO, as for today it won't work (of course, it should, but...)

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  6. My first post, some thoughts:

    First, great blog! Been reading since I started playing during the summer. Really helped me a lot, so big thanks for all the effort Panic!

    The trading some are talking about is never going to happen, face it: they will never add a feature that makes them less money.

    But they should come up with ways to use more than 5 rangers. They could make endless mode much more exciting by making you enter for example 3 teams of a total 15 rangers that would rotate every 500.000 or so.

    Why not make the teams have a max of say 15-20 (stars total for the 5 ranger teams)? LINE Corp surely reads this blog (they should! or well, they should make new stages...) so... :)

    As it is now, why bother playing once you reach 1 mil and max the reward. I always just let skatedude have his way since theres no point after round 9. Why not add something like a ruby for every mil at least? Or some ranking like PvP? There's a lot they could do there, it's not like they're superbusy making new stages... and these things would not make people spend less...

    I had insane luck and got 5 junior cony in 5x6 spins. Never even had a mastered Dumpy before and now I don't need one! The stats doesn't really impress me but she's real good when used. Maybe I'm missing something, I'm not a Taiwanese mathematician, just a guy from Sweden who had $50 to spare :)

    But I still think these newer rangers are mostly for PvP, perhaps Maestro (only got one) is better for (future) stages. If there will ever be any.

    Anyone know what all the 30+ resource updates was about? I was *sure* I was gonna see a new stage, so disappointed...

    Ok, back to lurking I go!

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    1. Wow panic I also got general brown and kinnara cony.

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    2. Hello Lurker! So nice to hear from Sweden!
      I agree - Generally I only see Maestro being useful as a blanket statement. As an attack ranger, he will be good to have in pvp, and as an ultra long range attacker, he will be useful in stages.

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  7. whenever new rangers come out, i buy about 1000 rubies and got loads of 3 star rangers and free 4 n 5 star rangers,,i dont have idea how much i must spend to mastered the new rangers.seriously they must remove that 3 stars from 100 spins. so many 5 star rangers we can get from gacha and I only mastered my dwight..with pvp is insane and no new level,,i think i will waste my time on other games

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  8. Yeah I had the same, got no Edward, got a few Erica but I find her almost unusable since I wasn't even close to master her. Managed to master only Muay Thai of the september 5 stars (used "a lot" of rubies, 500 bought and lots from top 20000, tickets etc) but considered that lucky. Better master one than 2 different at level 70/75..?
    So when I got 5 Junior Cony from 500 rubies I couldnt believe my luck. And I doubt they'll tweak her back like Yaris. Junior isn't *that* OP I think. What do you all think?

    Imho, Muay Thai mastered is the only "must have" for any team (if you're that lucky/rich that is). It's enough to rank 20.000 with free feathers as long as you have a few other decent ones (and to rank 10.000 you have to spend more rubies on feathers than the reward gives, if you want to have some life outside of LR... :)

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    1. yeah you are right, in pvp battle mode, they just mass produced muay thai...
      and just like that

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  9. I hate gacha. I got 2 junk rangers and tiiger while my little brother got 2 junk rangers, kinnara cony, samchoi, junior cony and maestro boss.

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  10. Is it still possible to get limited edward and erica now?

    I keep getting those non new rangers 3-4s ...

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    1. Indeed, no, none of the limited time rangers are obtainable past their eligible dates.

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  11. Edward was August only and Erica September only.

    Speaking of, is there any way to get Elf & Frog? Annoying to never be able to complete the "collection" because of them...

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    1. Elf was in an event not so long ago. Frog is (or was, maybe briefly) in premium gacha. A friend of mine has frog lv65.

      It's too bad that Elf Cony, Elle, Summer Cony and Tiger are not in friendship gacha. They should, since they're three stars.

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    2. Im sure Frog isn't in 3-5 star gacha or friendship gacha. Could be in the 2-4 gacha since I've never played it but it would be strange...
      I never got Elf in the event.
      I don't really want them, it just irks me that I can't complete the collection thingie... :)
      Weird btw that they don't update it with a page or two for the newer rangers. Guess it's just one more thing LINE corp are too busy making new stages to fix :p

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    3. I have a sneaking suspicion Frog will either be some random event gift or eventually be back in the Gacha. It would be impossible for people to complete their collection otherwise.

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    4. I agree. New players won't be able to complete collections if they include limited edition rangers. For instance, it would be nonsensical to have Olá Brown in a collection.

      About Frog Brown, again, Panic, you know the guy I'm speaking of. He definitely got Frog Brown from 5+1 premium gacha. Maybe it was due to a change that they decided to roll back a bit later, like those Beans that were being given out very briefly by roulette spins after stage completions, but it happened.

      Either way, I insist, EVERY 3 stars should be in friendship gacha. If they don't want Tiger, Elle, Elf Cony and Summer Cony to be there, just promote them to 4*. They're much better than many actual 4* so why not. But if they are 3*, so they are, please Line devs, don't violate even more of your own set of rules.

      Aand, now that you're reading me, please, STOP GIVING US RANGERS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE MASTERED, LIKE COOKIE RUN DOES! That will render everybody happier, even yourselves, because users will spend more, some players that never have bought rubies will start doing it, and on the long run, there'll be less people sick of the current system and quiting the game for good. (If you don't believe me, just read this blog and youtube to find out why most of your historically more faithful players are leaving and playing other things now).

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    5. They make far too much money on those who have every ranger mastered but still need the latest necessary one for PvP. They would only need a few spins for $50 to get mastered of all the new ones if your (and mine!) wish was granted.

      This is, as I'm sure others have pointed out elsewhere, the reason they release OP rangers in the first place.

      But maybe theres some hope in that this months batch arent that OP, we should soon see if every team in the top 100 will keep using any from this month.

      I myself see a much bigger problem in that they release so few new stages. In the long run that would sooner make me quit the game as I never even play for top 10.000

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    6. I disagree, but just a bit.

      As I pointed out myself many times now, it's much better for virtually any kind of business - this one included, of course - to have a lot of small spenders than just a bunch of hardcore spenders who might as well mass quit precisely because of the reasons you're pointing out and with which I fully agree.

      I, for one, never have spent a single cent in LR despite having enjoyed it big time since its very start, and that's just because the gacha system is a plain scam. If they change it so it works like pets in Cookie Run do, I'd start spending in a monthly basis as long as the new challenges in the game keep me entertained. And I know many players who think exactly like me, while the ones that WERE spending the big bucks every month to get every new ranger mastered are drastically stopping because, as the number of rangers increases, the odds of getting the new ones become even more infimal, and every month you need more money to waste in a game that you no longer enjoy.

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  12. waste of money and time

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  13. F**k this new rangers really sucks, they are worst even than august rangers or is just because the september rangers are so highly over powered??

    Junior Cony is a retarded version of Dumpy, almos half damage almost same health cost a lot more minerals, the only advantage is the range but for a limited time ranger she really sucks.

    Maestro Boss: mmm I have a feeling that I already saw a similar ranger, oh yes I remember now, Prince James, Maestro Boss is another filler ranger, why I would need him if I already have Prince James almost the same range, attack and life so why they release a ranger with almost the same stats?? they want to decrease the probability to get a sepecific ranger?? they released it only to make players buy rubies??

    Somchai (the muaythai dude): well he is a real tank with almost 6M HP is a tough guy and an attack of more than 100K its a decent pick but wait, is there any other ranger with more than 5M HP and more attack damge??? yes and her name is Chichi, with better attack damage and slightly less health Chichi outperforms Somchai even in the minerals, Chichi cost less minerals and have almost 5x times Somchai attack damage, so for me Somchai is worthless if you have Chichi.

    Tiger: well this rangers appears to be the best ranger of this new set, because being a 3stars only have almost the same stats that a 4star ranger (witch cony).

    So for me I will not waste my rubies this month, I prefer to wait until november, maybe the november rangers will be as good as the september ones (muaythai brown and kinnara) because this crappy october rangers are a waste of time and rubies they are not good on anything more than to steal your money.

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    1. But Junior is kinda cute no? ;)

      Totally agree on Somchai, AND not a bit cute. Why he even in the game, we're trying to rescue Sally and he's out for his elephant..?

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    2. We still are split about whether Sally is a duck or chicken. Maybe Somchai thinks she's an "elephant".

      P.S. She's a duck. :D

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    3. you right benito n i play gacha because i want muay thai and dumpy but get that crap somchai and tiger..i already have prince, dkb n chichi..
      with 3 stars ranger included in 4n5 star gacha spin, you just need to spend more and more money

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    4. Somchai stands right up the front near where hip hop, MT brown and driver brown stand, while ChiChi stands back where Kinnara and other melee splash rangers stand. That means that you are more likely to get pushed back and have a more difficult time pushing forward with ChiChi as your forward meat tank. But I agree, new rangers are old, we want new levels, before they drive everyone away from the game.

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    5. Junior Cony isn't bad. If you saw the demo video someone posted, that might have been misleading about her range--or they might have changed it. She stands outside of splash range, unlike her riskier friends, Dumpy and Mully, and more like the other Conies.

      Aaaand don't pretend like Somchai and Chichi have the same attack range. Somchai is crazy expensive in minerals though.

      I do find their business strategy terribly annoying. I don't want another slightly different level 60 ranger, I want mastered rangers... but not hundreds of dollars worth of want.

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    6. Yes, they changed her range, and anyone who had read Panic's article would have find out that it says that her range is good enough for her lack of health not being a big issue.

      I have a lv60 Junior, my first limited edition ever, and she's the worst limited edition ever, lol. But still, I can tell that she's much better than most of us initially thought because of that drastical increase of range performed just a few hours after the release.

      Anyway, I agree with Benito in one thing: This set of rangers isn't nearly as overpowered as the two previous ones. Not that I'm complaining about that, but it's kinda awkward.

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    7. crying again dali? I do not think MT and kinnara are "overpowered". The previous batches of rangers, Edward. Mully, chichi are also as strong, Mully especially in PvP because its so low in cost. Cony Junior is almost like Mully, but with lesser HP and bigger range. You are making a big fuss out of nothing, you pay for what you get.

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    8. Wtf are you replying? Furthermore, wtf are you talking about? First of all, I'm not "crying" and second, here I only have said that Junior is the worst limited ranger ever, and so she is. Just compare her with Erica, Edward, Susu, or even Olá Brown. You guys just can't get enough trolling around already, huh?

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    9. And if you say that MT Brown and Kinnara aren't overpowered, well, you're absolutely clueless about how this game works, lol

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    10. I think some of the disagreements are depending on if one talks about stages or PvP, and then also if you are competing for top 20.000 or for top 1.000 say. MT Brown is obviously very OP if mastered, but not so much at level 60 while Kinnara is OP at level 60 already, but there are still better choices early on in PvP while I would always recommend using MT under any circumstances as a tank if nothing else. Erica and Edward are great for some stages, but I think pretty useless in PvP if you don't have them mastered and play at level 85+ or so.

      For example, I would prefer level 70 dumpy over level 70 Erica if playing for top 20.000 but mastered if playing for top 1.000 it could well be the opposite ... I would not know from experience, sadly :)

      I find I change my team a lot from the beginning of the PvP week to the end (I only ever aim for 20.000 because I only use the free feathers, but still).

      I have not done any math whatsoever on it, and I only speak of my experiences. If anyone disagrees I don't think they're wrong, but maybe they just play at a different level or aim for different goals.

      I think Dali makes very much sense, but naturally from a standpoint of someone who has not spent money on the game. If you are at level 99 and have every ranger mastered you would obviously not have the same view as him. I myself am somewhere in between :)

      I would want more than anything to exchange my 2 spare MT for 2 Dumpy, and I think that is at the core of what Dali talks about. But sadly, I will never be able to so they will probably be food... and no way I pay for rubies to get 2 Dumpys, with the amount of 5 stars available I don't even want to think about what it would cost me... level 70 Dumpy is useful enough for now. For me.

      TL; DR I think different opinions are true for different players. Let's all be friends and rescue the duck (I bow to Panic's opinion here :)

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    11. To use Dumpy you have to be really careful because he will die in a few hits as enemy gains crystals everytime your ranger dies. There are times when the AI spams too many Dumpy in the beginning and thanks to that I have my whole horder of MT to win the battle. I would prefer Mully/Jr Connie to be my main attacker because they have a better range.

      Dali you don't need MT to get to top 20k go get good you are just bad in this game.

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    12. My only mastered premium ranger is 4* biker James which is not of much use actually. Besides that, I have not much time to play and still I was ranked top 17k last week so maybe I'm not that bad. But, whether I am bad or not, MT Brown and Kinnara Cony are OP, and that's not deniable by anyone who knows just a bit of this game

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    13. I second the last sentence, and even with mastered MT & Kinnara (as well as other ones) I struggle to get much higher than Dali, I would say it's impressive to reach top 20k without mastered 5*'s and tons of bought feathers.


      Besides, Anonymous, being disrespectful isn't going to help anyone.

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    14. Thank you.

      BTW, those of you who had given up with stage 144, please try it today. They lowered the difficulty a lot, and now it's a piece of cake. New area is coming soon, sure thing.

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    15. Threre was a ton of new resources today also at startup, please let it be a new stage....

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  14. I'm glad these new rangers didn't make the previous generation look like fools. It's about time they did that.

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    1. Ex-lurker from SwedenOctober 2, 2014 at 12:26 AM

      Very good sum up really. I didn't mind paying for some rubies to try for the new ones since I still needed a few older ones to master, but it's a relief not to immediately have to change half the team to stand a chance in PvP.

      I hope they try some more creative rather than OP rangers next month (or, pipe dream maybe, NO new 5 star rangers but stages instead.. and really, some funny 2-3 stars for the friendship/normal; ones you'd want but not need.)

      We all (?) started this cause LINE has funny/cute characters. I hope LINE corp doesn't forget that. That's why Junior makes me happy, and Somchai doesnt. I'd really have hated it if for example Somchai or Summer had been so good that my team ended up looking even less LINE.

      Give us some funny 3 star Edwards that are useless in PvP! And give us outside of Japan those 2 new crap ones; I for one would want them just because... kinda like I use Beans sometimes... just because :) Now give us Beans side quest stage!

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  15. Ex-lurker from SwedenOctober 2, 2014 at 12:46 AM

    Yeah but there will have to be a veeery specific reason i.e new stage for that to be significantly useful. I for one love his looks and attack animation so I use him either way of course!

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  16. LR is the only game that make you put much money in it to buy the disappointment if they don't reduce the drop rate of stage-clear-rangers to zero.

    Last month I threw 50 bucks to get MT Brown but the best things I got are 1 MT Brown, 1 Kinnara Cony, 1 Driver Cony, 1 KSM, 1 Summer, and ton of other 5, 4 or 3 star free rangers. No Erica at all.

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    1. 3 star Edward from SwedenOctober 2, 2014 at 1:34 AM

      If it's any consolation, in my experience Erica is pretty useless unless mastered, and even then you would need to be very high level to afford her mineralcost.
      Level 60 Kinnara & MT are useful right away, and you have the rest of your life to master them :)

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    2. erica is useful at ravine because you can couter that black hair enemy.
      but useless in pvp..its enough to have dumpy muly and muay thai.

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    3. 3 star Edward from SwedenOctober 2, 2014 at 1:49 AM

      True. I forgot LR also have stages. Been so long :)

      On a sidenote, Junior is now (I think?) the theoretically fastest way to win a PvP. Close and weakish opposite tower = instant win :)

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    4. Level 60 of Kinnara and MT Brown does not mean anything at stage 144. I've seen on youtube, some guys clear it with Erica + Driver Brown + Glenn and Scotch. I got mastered Driver Brown from last month Boss-stage event. But no Erica no hope for this stage with damn stage-clear-rangers.

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    5. Even Erica at level 60 or 65, they did pass stage 144 without reviving by 3 ru ies.

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    6. As I said above, please do give 144 a try right now. It's much easier. Only one Sujin at the beginning (the freaking gardener) and many less other monsters, lemons, crows, etc.

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  18. Hey, Panic, I have found an easy way for the Maze of Illusion stages. You just need a mastered shu and muay thai brown lvl.60.
    1. You need to maxing your mineral first.
    2. Then, you spawn muay thai brown
    3. After that, you spawn shu
    4. Repeat step 2 and 3 continuosly.
    But only level 132 it will hard to win.

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  19. i don't mind that we get OP rangers as much as the fact that other rangers start becoming useless when those appear? i mean 2 months ago alice was deadly on pvp and now she's so easy to take out? i don't see the point of those rangers being in gacha when there are OP ones. i can barely stand in pvp due to muay thai brown and chichi

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  20. Only available as event rangers in Japan at this moment

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  21. Today I got the weirdest Gacha of all times, I played the 1 spin Gacha (20 rubies) and I got Erica, yes you read it right Erica the september limited ranger showed up in my Gacha spin, i have proofs (video + photos) that I will post later.

    Its funny and curious why Erica is still in the Gacha as an available ranger, did someone else got Erica too?? or it was only me?? =)

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    1. It has happened to this guy who posted on youtube doing his gacha spins, but it was for during the edward period in august. he got it in the 6 spins while doing the gacha in september for erica. lucky u I guess.

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    2. I think that the video you're referring to was captured when both rangers overlapped as limited (Edward last day, Erica first). What happened to benito shouldn't have happened and he's been lucky, congratulations :)

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  22. I think the creation of a market for buying/selling Rangers would be a very interesting addition to the game that might generate some money for Line. The store could be Ruby only and since premium gancha is minimally valued at 20 rubies, prices for highly-demanded rangers could command very high ruby prices. Line could then take a cut of the rubies from each sale...

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    1. I hope LINE corp are listening, but I doubt it. I still keep my spare MT's just in case. But soon they will probably be just food... :(

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  23. Off topic, but I don't know where to discuss this:

    Opinions on where and how to level up new rangers easily.
    I find that if you are level 80+ and have a mastered MT, you can beat 124 by just spamming MT, minerals at lvl 1. The other 4 spots can be used to level up anything. It's very quick, pretty good exp, in short the highest boss stage where I found this to work.

    It's of course better to level up rangers with endless mode, but I havent found any easy way to reach 1 mil (for max gold&exp) without at least 2-3 mastered rangers which defeats the purpose somewhat. Does anyone have any ideas on this? I don't yet have a mastered Somchai (if not mastered his cooldown is way too high, I combine him with MT and any good splasher with good reach) but I fear you need to be lvl 99 for it to work even with mastered Somchai.

    In short, can you get 1mil with just one ranger, and if not, which 2-combo do you all find works best?

    I hate to level up by eating other rangers, I need them to level up a bit and sell to afford the upgrades to production, tower etc. I must have played 124 more times than all other stages combined... but otherwise my upgrades would be stuck several levels below my player level.

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    1. you need many splash rangers for endless mode...i recommend sorcerer, songster, shu, any attacking rangers and red brown..

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    2. I'd recommend you to grind at stage 120 instead, which takes not much longer and gives more coins and XP

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    3. I thought higher boss stages always equaled higher rewards? I have not looked into it in that much detail though, will definitely check out if 120 is better, thanks for the advice!

      Somchai, now that mine is master, still has insane cooldown so is pretty useless even at Endless. Best way I found to get 1 mil seems to be at least 2 mastered (MT + Jr usually works if I don't try to level up the other 3 from lvl 1 but from slightly higher so they can be of some use).

      Hate to waste good exp on mastered rangers! :)

      Am I crazy or is Somchai unusually underpowered (a word not used here often...) with that crazy long cooldown? Compared to MT everything is "UP" of course... ^^;

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    4. Update: yes 120 seems better, thanks! With MT it takes a lot longer than 124 though, but I tried Kinnara instead and even with the mineral waste due to her much longer cooldown, she clears the stage much faster.

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    5. You're most welcome :)

      Panic should update this table, hehe: http://linerangers.blogspot.com.es/2014/07/more-experience-wanted-player-exp.html

      BTW, what I do at stage 120 is put driver and soco mastered and complete the team with 1 of each 3*, 4* and 5*.

      As soon as I get one ranger as reward, I sell the corresponding one (3, 4, 5 stars) and replace him for the new, lv1 one. Repeat the process. You'll find yourself rich in no time, which is a must if you want to upgrade your stuff.

      This works in friend battle mode as well for gaining XP for your rangers fast, but it gives less XP and you get no replacements as rewards.

      And remember, never let an expendable ranger reach a level equals to ten times its number of stars. The amount of coins you'll receive for selling a lv80 5* character is the same as if it was lv50. It takes very long to level it up from that point and it's utterly useless if you're going to sell it.

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    6. Yeah I do kind of the same + I have extra rangers from gacha so I try to level up 4 at a time to sell. I don't really know the ultimate level at which to sell, but max lvl 10 x stars seems about right, less for 3 stars since you are almost guaranteed to get a new one before the old one is even lvl 20 and its at 4-5 stars where the money is :)

      In the early week of pvp I can win the matches with just mastered Jr & MT, so I level up others there as well, but usually not from lvl 1, instead maybe a spare Sorcerer Cony (I have like 20 of them from level 124...) at level 40+ and the like, so it can be of some help if needed. But until I reach at least 1500 points, Jr & MT wins alone even without help or items... (so whoever says MT isn't OP... hehe)

      One always needs the money... even though I hardly notice any change when finally reaching a new level and spend all that hard earned money on upgrades :)

      What they could do is allow mastered rangers to level up to 99 in the same manner as players, i.e. let it take an insane amount from 80 to 81 etc (but still being master). At least then there'd be less waste... ;)

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  24. Anyone here has PvP mode score more than 4,000, pls tell me how to get that score?
    I am reaaly wonder about how to get that score, because from 2,500 score the AI has really crazy spamming rate and very clever at using items. I just can win one and lose one? So I think even with good team (all mastered soldiers) it is still hard to win continously? How could people got more than 20k score.

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  25. I can usually manage about 3.500 points which is enough to get into top 20.000 with free feathers, not sure if I could get 4.000 even with more feathers, but I think so? ^^;

    Been able since about lvl 80, mastered MT, Mully, Dumpy, some good splasher (Kinnara for example) if the battle drags out and some with decent range (dkb, jr cony, driver cony, or so). Plan your team very carefully, do not just use your "5 best".

    The key I think is to use items correctly (tornado+ice, after AI used both, for example) and to quickly judge which rangers to use (if AI uses Kinnara don't spam Dumpy, if tower is close and no AI-Kinnara, Dumpy is great though etc)

    Also, don't upgrade minerals, if you ask me it's usually a waste. I think Panic has written about some of these things somewhere on the blog..?

    20k score though, that is almost impossible if not in a team, see Panics post about a week ago for example. Either way, I doubt you can get higher than top 10.000 without spending more rubies than you gain?

    The above is just what I've found works for me. Hope it's of some help!

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    1. Thanks for your reply, as free player I never buy any addition feathers, my team isn't as good as you so every week, my rank is always about 16,000th and PvP score also 3,300~3,500.

      But in my experience, it is so hard as hell to farm score when our score higher than 2,500, from this level of score, after winning each 2 battles, I usually encountered with very strong team at the 3rd who has mastered TM Brown, Mully, Dumpy, Kinnara, Edwards... The AI could generated 2 or 3 Edwards in a very short time, and ton of MT Browns, Mully or Junior Cony.

      But everybody known almost of those rangers cost a mountain of mineral. How could the AI cheat us like that!

      P/S: Now my best current team are mastered Driver Brown, Sorcerer Cony + MT Brown lv 70 + Driver Cony lv 65 + Kinnara lv 60.

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    2. With that generation rate, who can win the battle? Cheaters only?

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    3. Ah, right! I agree with you. No one could climb above 10,000th rank without spending rubies on feathers I think.

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    4. Maybe if your team is well balanced, your rangers are good and mastered and of course if you don't sleep much, lol.

      But, at some point, you'll need to buy feathers using more rubies than you'll get as reward, which is what top players do, as Clara said herself during the interview which was published here in a previous article, so I'd not advise anyone to do that unless he or she is rich and fully commited to outrank mostly everyone

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    5. I ranked 4000 this time and I didnt' buy any feathers...but I do have a pretty good lineup. I think it should be a given that you need to buy items for every match as well as a sidekick vs friend-help. You really need to be good about using up all of your feathers throughout the day though, and you should set it up to optimize your level-up feathers too.

      I'm lvl 90 with lvl 90 production, lvl 90 limit, lvl 80 missile, lvl 58 tower

      To be minimally competitive in PVP, you should probably have mastered MT and Kinnara, and I got mine by spending money during the double Gancha events. I'd think about $100 will do it...which is a ridiculous sum if you think about it... but you can eventually earn it back by getting ruby bonuses. For example, $50 gets you 484 rubies...if I could only get 30 rubies as a free player but can now get 80, then your gain is 50 rubies per week. You'd make your $50 back in 10 weeks.

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    6. I seem to be matched against lower ranked players a lot which means 7-8 points. I'm slightly lower lvl than you, but I only lost maybe 4 PvP matches and still didn't make top 10k. Of course I waste feathers when I sleep, and I never buy any, but I don't see how I could make top 20k unless able to gain at least 12 points per match.

      Some weeks I don't even bother to try for more than 3.500 points or so, that guarantees top 20k, and use the rest on endless, since I know I won't have enough feathers to reach higher even winning every match.

      I doubt $100 even on double gacha will get everyone mastered MT & Kinnara, or even one of them mastered, even though I seem to have had almost as good luck as you... :)

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    7. Correction, meant to say "...make top 10k unless..." not 20k.

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  26. Apparently there was a contest for LINE figures, I got a notice that I won. Then I could not enter a Swedish adress; asia and USA only... :(

    Can't understand why they would want to alienate europeans this way, they are kinda stupid to get my hopes up with a winner splash screen only then to not accept European adresses. Its not difficult to ship here, I get packages from Japan, Singapore, Thailand, Hong Kong almost every week... :(

    Anyone else won who are lucky enough to actually receive the prize?

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  27. I think from the beginning of Sep they have changed the damage of tower missile... that why I always try to earn 1mil coin first before farming exp enough to jump to next level.

    I am also at level 90 with production 90, max mineral 90, misile damage 90, tower hp 66 (uprading more tower hp just make ur losing time longer right? Tower hp is just useful in campaign but not too much comparing with owned op rangers ^^). At level 90, the missile really helpful in campaign or PvP as I remember.

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    1. Funny, I was looking for info on missile damage last days since it "feels" like it changed lately but I figured I was imagining and never found any stats (too lazy to try to figure out on my own hehe)

      Do you have any links or figures on changed missile damage? Panic wrote about it, but it was months ago.

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    2. Just my experience, sometime by 1 missile hit I can knock out a group of Songster Cony or SoCo or whom has hp lower than 300k.

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  28. I also have 2 suggestion for LR development, I tried to contact them in ingame helpdesk but it seem to be not available or game bugs now. It is about game items adding:

    + The first item is "hurry-up activation". As we known when the hurry-up is activated, the damage of both teams is boosted up to xxx% that make u kill the oponents by 1 or 2 hits and the ultra lighting will hit anyone anywhere randomly. The cost for this item will be 2,100 coins. Do u guys can figure the playing strategies for campaign and PvP by using this item?

    + The second is "extending item using time", auto active at the battle beginning, 1.5 times longer. Purchased by 1 ruby each. (This is new money grinding method for LR dev). This item is not available for AI in PvP Arena. Special Meteor damage will 1.5 times higher^^. More new item, more new strategy^^

    How do you think about my suggestion, guys?

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    1. Wouldn't the second just further extend the advantage of the players prepared to spend a ton, and do nothing for... the rest of us? Don't see it adding to strategy.

      The first is more interesting but I don't know that I would use it (and 2100 coins seems kind of random?) and for PvP it would have to be available to AI and would that really work? Maybe for stages.

      Unfortunately it doesn't seem LR development listens to much of suggestions, which is a shame, since many players have ideas.

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    2. The second item, I meant about:

      + In Campaign Mode, stage 144 for Ex, somebody couldn't complete it at the first run, so they have to use 3 rubies to revive, but if they paid (by ruby) for this item it will be an advantage to win the battle without reviving.

      + In PvP, the more score you got the more difficulty is added, the best strategy of using item is using same item right after the opponent using it. The AI known that, and he does it very intelligent. So, this item will be a little help for free player, because even they threw 2,100 coin to buy it, they still lose the battle by crazy spamming rate of AI. Like a "Zero-sum game" right?

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    3. Sorry, "1 ruby to buy it", my mistake.

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    4. I have a hint for you for the first item suggestion:

      -> Even it is a random but we can avoid it by spamming Glenn or Scotch, so if we activate it then do the right strategy, we could win a stronger team that only including high HP but much mineral consuming rangers.

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    5. Ah, Special, after Hurry-up activating the damage of meteor also goes crazy to throw a team into death quickly.

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    1. Please add friend id to the friend post. Thank you.

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